Terminology - Mk2 Golf

[Tod]

Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And what
does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

Tod

[Depresion]

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And what
does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

A1 is the Mk1 Golf./Jetta A2 Mk2 Golf/Jetta platform etc. B1 Is the Pass Mk1 and
so on.

[Jon B]

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And what
does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

[nathan]

Post by Jon B

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And what
does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

i think GL is "grande luxe" not sure about CL though

[Jon B]

Post by nathan

Post by Jon B

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And what
does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

i think GL is "grande luxe"

When it was first used years n years ago, bit like Ghia used to mean it
was designed by Ghia, now it means a Fiesta with a bit of fake wood
stuck to the dash. GT is meant to mean 'Grande Tourer' but most vehicles
with it stuck on the back aren't.

Post by nathan
not sure about CL though

Crappy Luxe ;)

[Angus Manwaring]

On 31-Aug-05 14:30:07, nathan said

Post by nathan

Post by Jon B

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And
what does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

i think GL is "grande luxe" not sure about CL though

Nothing to do with having a "cat" is it?

On the Mk 3, I think the GL 1800 is 90 hp against the CL's 75 hp.


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[Chris Bartram]

Post by Angus Manwaring
Nothing to do with having a "cat" is it?
On the Mk 3, I think the GL 1800 is 90 hp against the CL's 75 hp.

No. You have the power output right, but the difference is multi-point
injection on the GL, with single on the CL. Like you say, both were 1800
(well 1781) cc. I'd imagine the engines were otherwise very similar-
IIRC all MK3's had a catalyst. There was a special edition MK2 Golf CL
Catalyst, (actually badged as such) at one time, which IIRC still had
the 2e2 carb on a 1595cc engine, but with a cat. It produced a bit less
BHP than the non-cat (72 as against 75?).

C, CL, GL trim levels preceeded cats. The MK1 Golf had C (1093cc, basic)
, CL (1272cc, a bit better) and GL (14something cc, plush for the
70s/80s) from a long time ago.

Trim level designations have often been arbitary strings of letters: GL
can mean 'Grande Luxe' or some other rubbish, but the general idea seems
to be more letters=more trim:

eg: Ford:

No letters--->L--->XL---->GXL---->Ghia--->Ghia X

VW

Nothing---->C--->CL---->GL--->GTI

or
S--->SE--->Sport--->GTI

or

Nothing--->N---->L---->GL (IIRC)

[Depresion]

Post by Chris Bartram

Post by Angus Manwaring
Nothing to do with having a "cat" is it?
On the Mk 3, I think the GL 1800 is 90 hp against the CL's 75 hp.

No. You have the power output right, but the difference is multi-point
injection on the GL, with single on the CL. Like you say, both were 1800 (well
1781) cc. I'd imagine the engines were otherwise very similar- IIRC all MK3's
had a catalyst. There was a special edition MK2 Golf CL Catalyst, (actually
badged as such) at one time, which IIRC still had the 2e2 carb on a 1595cc
engine, but with a cat. It produced a bit less BHP than the non-cat (72 as
against 75?).
C, CL, GL trim levels preceeded cats. The MK1 Golf had C (1093cc, basic) , CL
(1272cc, a bit better) and GL (14something cc, plush for the 70s/80s) from a
long time ago.
Trim level designations have often been arbitary strings of letters: GL can
mean 'Grande Luxe' or some other rubbish, but the general idea seems to be
No letters--->L--->XL---->GXL---->Ghia--->Ghia X
VW
Nothing---->C--->CL---->GL--->GTI
or
S--->SE--->Sport--->GTI
or
Nothing--->N---->L---->GL (IIRC)

or

L > CL > GL > GLX

Did VW change there trim level names every year? ;)

[Chris Bartram]

Post by Depresion
L > CL > GL > GLX
Did VW change there trim level names every year? ;)

Not every year, but seemingly quite often....

[Depresion]

Post by Angus Manwaring
On 31-Aug-05 14:30:07, nathan said

Post by nathan

Post by Jon B

Post by Tod
Just trying to work out what CL and GL stand for, for a Mk 2 Golf. And
what does A1, A2 etc refer to? Is it the same as Mk1, Mk2 etc?

CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

i think GL is "grande luxe" not sure about CL though

Nothing to do with having a "cat" is it?

No it's older than that.

[Chris Bartram]

Post by Jon B
CL & GL are trim levels, CL is the basic, GLs the midrange, A1 & A2 are
the american names for the mk1 & mk2

There was a Golf C as the entry level, below the CL, at one time.